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Rob Rosenberger Please feel free to send kudos, comments, and/or constructive criticisms! I receive a lot of email these days but I still read every message ... and yes, I do respond as much as possible. Please note: I focus on computer virus myths/hoaxes. Check out urbanlegends.About.com and snopes.com and urbanlegends.com and Hoax du Jour and US DoE CIAC and alt.folklore.urban if you want to know about other myths, hoaxes, urban legends, and old wives' tales.

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Questions people frequently ask me


How can I quickly tell if a virus alert is a hoax?

  1. Did a genuine computer security expert send you the email? If your mother-in-law sent it to you, and she claims she got it from her dentist, who got it from a podiatrist, who got it from his secretary's daughter, who (supposedly) received the email at college directly from IBM's virus experts...
  2. Does it urge you to forward it to everyone you know? Genuine virus alerts don't ask you to participate in a chaotic email distribution scheme.
  3. Does it include a link to an authoritative details page? Chain-letter virus alerts shouldn't go into detail about a virus. It should summarize the threat and provide a link to a "for more info" page stored on a well-known computer security website.

I received a virus alert from an authoritative source. Should I forward it to my friends?

Ask the authoritative source to send a copy to each of your friends. If you received the alert via a computer security mailing list, tell your friends about the list and give them instructions on how to sign up. (Caution: don't add your friends to the mailing list without their permission. They may retaliate by adding you to dozens of mailing lists.)

I received a chain letter about a threat to AOL users. Should I forward it to AOL?

If you started the chain letter, then you should definitely report your problem to AOL. If you did not start the chain letter, then please refrain from flooding AOL with copies. The same goes for any Internet service provider, really. Thanks for understanding.
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Giving help to the clueless...

One of my colleagues is clueless about viruses. Can you help this person?

Yes, if the person lives in the United States. I purchased business cards specifically for the website; I can send one to your colleague if you wish.

Front of card
Back of card
Address an envelope (any size) to your colleague. Leave the return address blank if you want to remain anonymous. Put a stamp on the envelope and place it in another envelope. Address the outer envelope to:

CVMhp Clue Offer
P.O. Box 50
Wellman, IA 52356
I'll slide a website business card in the envelope you provided and drop it in the mailbox. Please forgive me: I can only afford to do this for U.S.-addressed envelopes. The local post office doesn't handle international mailing coupons (I'd have to drive to a regional post office)...
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Our employees started forwarding hoax alerts again. How can we stop it?

Ask your CIO to sign the following notice:
To all employees,

We have experienced another rash of hoax virus alerts spreading around the company. These hoaxes are disguised as "helpful" emails with a warning about a dangerous new computing threat. These emails are hoax chain letters which make the sender look stupid. They waste employee time and spread false information.

Stupid employees may forward hoax alerts with my blessing. If you're not stupid, and you receive an email warning of any type, forward it to the "Computer Security" email account. Our experts will investigate it and notify you if further action is required.

Questions can be directed to {employee} at extension {phone}. Please visit http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html and http://www.kumite.com/myths for more info about computer virus hoaxes. Thank you.

Signed,
The CIO

Sadly, you may need to spam this notice to every employee once a year. Caution: the point of contact will hear from a lot of clueless people. (Trust me, I know.) Delegate the task if possible. Don't say I didn't warn you.
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We want to point out virus hoaxes in our next newsletter. Do you have any advice?

You probably want something short, fun, and to the point. Feel free to use this with my compliments:
Which of these things is not like the others?
  1. Win a Holiday computer virus alert
  2. Returned/Unable To Deliver computer virus alert
  3. Join the Crew computer virus alert
  4. Word.Concept computer virus alert
  5. Penpal Greetings computer virus alert
Answer: (4). The Word.Concept virus is real. The rest are hoaxes designed to frighten you. Don't panic about a virus alert -- especially if you receive the alert on April Fool's Day. Visit http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html and http://www.kumite.com/myths for more information about computer virus hoaxes.
If a specific hoax plagues your organization, insert it in place of another alert in this list.
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What can we do for new users in our company so they don't fall for a virus hoax?

When you plop a computer on their desk, configure the browser's start page for www.kumite.com/myths by default. They'll change the start page on their own sooner or later anyway, so why not give them a useful lesson in the process?

If your firm's website must appear as the start page, you can still pull an interesting trick. Take this HTML code and change one HREF variable from www.news.com to the URL of your choice. Copy it to the user's computer as the default start page. The top half of the browser will display your website; the bottom half will display this website. Enjoy!

(Don't worry about stressing my server. It talks directly to the ATM cloud and I get unlimited bandwidth in my domain contract.)

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Can I link to you from my own (corporate or personal) website?

Certainly! Feel free to use these logo graphics if you wish. You don't even need to copy them to your website -- just reference them directly from here (very useful if your provider charges you for space or bandwidth). I get unlimited bandwidth in my domain contract, so don't worry about stressing my website just because you link to it or reference a graphic.
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I'm a student doing a report on viruses. Where should I start my Internet research?

I recommend Yahoo as one of the best starting points. Type "computer virus" in the search field and get going!
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What antivirus software do you recommend?

Just about any major antivirus program will do the job. The key issues:
  1. You must understand your needs. Would you blindly purchase a sports car if you really need a minivan? Too many computer users buy antivirus software before understanding their needs. Even worse, some people demand capabilities they'll never use. "Look, I like this car, but it needs an airbag in the trunk to protect the spare tire..."
  2. You must recognize the program's limitations. Some people honestly believe antivirus software is bug-free, for example. Others arbitrarily mix & match operating system requirements without understanding the limitations it imposes. And did you know all virus detectors suffer from an unsolvable design problem? (Among other things, this design problem accounts for many false alarms.) Even large companies and government agencies sometimes fail to understand these limitations.
  3. You must use antivirus software correctly. People who don't know what they need in the first place will often use antivirus software incorrectly. Many others eventually stop using it after growing weary of the tedium. Large organizations compound the issue when they centrally manage all computer virus policy -- workers don't feel a strong urge to check for viruses because "the guys in networking handle that stuff."
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Do you trust comparison reviews of antivirus software?

No. Virus researcher Sarah Gordon said it best: "There are serious problems with all of the [antivirus] evaluations on which people are currently relying."
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Should I send you any real viruses I might find?

No, but thank you for asking.

If you find a genuine virus and your antivirus software correctly detects it, then just delete it or keep it to yourself.

If you find a genuine virus (not a false alarm) and your antivirus software doesn't correctly detect it, then I recommend you send a copy to whichever firm produces your antivirus software. They'll want to see it. Include as much information as possible about your incident.

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Do you use antivirus software? Which products do you use? How often do you scan?

I certainly do use antivirus software. I currently employ four different products on my systems. I don't like to identify which specific products I use, for this reason.

I update virus-scanning packages whenever I get around to it, generally about every 6-10 weeks. I don't expect them to find viruses on my own computers -- rather, I run an updated scanner the first time just to see if it generates any false alarms.

I don't scan for viruses during the bootup process -- I only recommend at-bootup scanning in situations where untrusted users receive full, unsupervised access (e.g. at college computing centers). I do recommend "macro protection" facilities such as Microsoft's ScanProt, although I personally don't bother with macro protection on my own computers. (Shocked? Don't be: I check files when I receive them.)

Call me reckless, but I also accept Java & ActiveX in my web browser despite what the fearmongers say. Some magazines (e.g. PC/Computing) tell you to disable Java in your browser, yet they ironically use Java on their own websites. Go figure.

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Why aren't you worried about the threat of viruses?

I "worry" about viruses about as much as I "worry" about getting into a car accident. I don't sweat at the sight of every vehicle, fearing it contains a drunk driver destined to plow into me.

I don't run through the house every morning waving a gun as I search the cabinets for a deranged killer who might have broken into the house without my knowledge. Likewise, I don't run antivirus software at bootup every morning to search every file for a deranged virus which might have broken into the computer without my knowledge. (See my opinion piece on this subject.)

Besides, I don't need to worry about viruses -- the computing world ended long ago. In fact, the computing world has ended eight or nine times already. Viruses are nothing compared to the forthcoming tenth obliteration of the computing world, so I don't worry about them.

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Have your own computers ever been infected?

Infected by accident -- no. See my writeup about the many people who rise to the stature of office virus expert because their computers got infected.

On purpose, certainly. Colleagues occasionally send me the latest "fad" virus for review. I'll spend a whole day infecting a computer, studying the effects & attributes, etc. But for the most part I prefer to let far more qualified researchers do the code-studying.

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Do you own any stock in antivirus companies?

I occasionally buy five shares (regardless of price) just to keep tabs on the company. I'm not a stockbroker nor do I play one on TV. I don't invest in antivirus companies; I don't care what happens to the value of any five-share purchase; and I don't vote in stockholder matters.
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What do you think of antivirus companies in general?

I think "Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris." If Caesar were alive, they'd be chained to an oar. (Ha!)

Seriously, I believe antivirus firms provide an absolutely essential service for computer users. I also believe they should profit handsomely for their efforts. I just want them to make gobs of money in an ethical manner.

Do I write off the whole antivirus industry as a bunch of ambulance chasers? No. Unfortunately, a number of bad apples over the years pumped out most of the security hype we've seen to date. They created so much Chicken Little hysteria that we now thank firms for reducing the hype they generate on a regular basis.

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What's the most deadly computer virus you've ever seen?

None: I consider them all a nuisance. I worry about the incoming water line entering my house just 15 feet from where my computers sit. If it springs another leak like the last time... I also worry about an earthquake like the one St. Louis suffered in 1987, or a lightning strike like the one in 1989, or another Mississippi River flood like the one in 1993. Any one of those could physically destroy my computers (unlike a virus).
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Okay, what's the most interesting computer virus you've seen?

Typo TSR-B, hands down. Just over 710 bytes as I recall -- less than a 50% chance you'd notice an increase in cluster usage. Only infects .COM files and only spreads on even-numbered days. It watches what you type and occasionally replaces a keystroke with the key just to the right of it. If you type dir for example, you might get dor. Pretty annoying if you type 80 words per minute!
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Can we arrange for you to give a lecture to our organization?

Certainly! I charge $0.00, but I need you to get me there & back. Details here.
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Have you ever written a virus?

Nope. Far too many people write viruses already. I don't need to get involved.
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Would you send me some viruses for (insert reason here)?

I maintain a puny little virus library. It's practically nothing. Ask these guys if you want to mess around with live viruses.

Some people want just one or two live viruses so they can test their antivirus software. Read my opinion on this subject -- and please don't take it personally. Thanks for understanding.

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Why don't you...?

Why don't you include a hotlink to ______?

Perhaps I just don't know about it yet. Enter it here and then to me! I'd like to see it.

I generally offer hotlinks which help dispel computer virus myths. Many great information warfare hotlinks, for example, just don't meet this website's charter.

Some people ask why I didn't recommend a certain antivirus vendor's site. Most of them exist primarily to (a) sell software and (b) provide tech support. If they offer specific pages of interest, I'll gladly consider that page for a hotlink.

Others ask why I didn't recommend a certain book. I either didn't read it yet (I buy books out of my own pocket) or I didn't find enough time to visit the library. Besides, my boss wouldn't like it if I read books all day...

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Why don't you show misguided alert messages on your website?

First: I don't want someone mistaking my copy of an alert message as a genuine alert notice. It concerns me for the same reason when antivirus vendors include the text of hoax alerts on their websites. I've already seen one case where a user believed a hoax after reading it on an antivirus vendor's website.

Second: I don't see the need for it. Either you've already seen the alert in question, or you'll see it soon enough when a frightened colleague forwards it to you. I'd rather summarize the alert and explain why it qualifes as a hoax or urban legend.

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Why don't you post messages in Usenet newsgroups?

I just can't find enough time in the day. I "lurk" in certain newsgroups and of course I do plenty of Usenet-related research via DejaNews. You'll also find me lurking in various CompuServe security-related forums.
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Why don't you try to make some money from your website?

I didn't try to dispel virus myths in 1988 with profit in mind -- I just wanted to expose Chicken Little. However, after all these years, this website has grown too big for a hobby effort. I recently started looking for a sole sponsor to help me turn this website into a full-time job...
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What data do you collect on web visitors and what do you do with it?

The domain server records the IP address and date/time for each HTTP request. That's it. (I don't even track the referring URL right now.) These logs let me gauge the popular pages and prolific visitors at my website every day. I provide raw log data to outsiders only when forced (e.g. to document attacks against my domain).

This website uses no "cookies" to store/track information about you. You don't need to "register" yourself or participate in any surveys.

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Definitions, abbreviations, etc.

What does "[sic]" mean?

In a word, it means "verbatim." Webster's New World Dictionary defines it as "thus; so: used within brackets, [sic], to show that a quoted passage, esp. one containing some error or something questionable, is precisely reproduced."
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What does "kumite" stand for in kumite.com?

It means "to fight" in the martial arts world. You pronounce it KOO-mih-tay. "Fight myths" -- get it?
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What does "über" mean when you say "über-virus"?

It means "super-virus" in a loose German translation. Nietzche coined the prefix to describe something which overcame all of its intrinsic flaws & weaknesses. An über-virus is the ultimate supervirus; an über-hacker is the ultimate superhacker; an über-threat is the ultimate computer security superthreat; and so on. I typically use the prefix in a sarcastic context.
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Great looking site. What do you use to develop & maintain it?

I use Microsoft WordPad, a poor man's word processor included with every copy of Win9x. No joke. I change my file associations to make it the default right-click text/html editor. I even write most of my opinion pieces in WordPad. I use a licensed copy of WS_FTP to upload files to my domain server.
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You're wrong, it's not a hoax...

The [name] virus exists, it physically destroyed my computer, and I've got the receipts to prove it.

Please submit a copy of the virus to whichever antivirus company you prefer. If a repairman replaced the parts, please ask him/her to provide you with a copy of the virus so you can forward it to your preferred antivirus company. If the repairman doesn't trust you with a copy of the virus, demand proof showing he/she forwarded it to an antivirus company for inspection.

If the repairman says the virus destroyed itself as a result of destroying your computer... well, you're stuck with an unverifiable urban legend.

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Not to nitpick, but the [name] virus could exist under the right circumstances.

I love to debate theory, don't get me wrong -- but we can nitpick everything. For example, a guard rail will launch your car into the air if you drive into it at high speed at an 85-degree angle and slam on the brakes just before impact. Does this mean you'll stop driving into guard rails at extreme angles from now on?

Please feel free to begin a dialog if you recognize the theoretical nature of a theoretical threat. If you think we need a worldwide media alert about it ... well, you won't find me very receptive to a debate.


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